The One With… the ex-Heads of Sustainability. On burnout, role evolution, and going fractional
With Robbie Epsom & Emily Hamilton, Ex-CBRE Investment Management · Ex-Savills Investment Management.

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In this candid episode of The Future We Build, Alex brings together two former heads of sustainability—Robbie Epsom (ex-CBRE Investment Management) and Emily Hamilton (ex-Savills Investment Management)—for what Alex calls "a therapy session." The three discuss why so many senior sustainability leaders have left their roles, what's changed in the market, and where they're channelling their energy next. This is an unusually honest conversation about burnout, the shift from strategic thinking to operational execution, and why the fractional model might be the future of sustainability leadership in real estate.
Short clips
- The Way We Value Real Estate Is Broken. And It's Blocking the Green Transition · 0:48
- We've Turned Sustainability Into a Compliance Exercise. No Wonder We're Failing. · 0:49
- Net Zero Makes Financial Sense. The Real Estate Industry Knows It. So What's the Holdup? · 0:54
- Corporate Sustainability Is Under Attack. Are Leaders Standing Firm or Giving Up? · 1:06
- C-suites brought sustainability in-house. Did they kill the challenger they needed? · 0:54
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